The Divine Comedy of Parenthood


There is nothing more beautiful than parenthood.

I look at parents from all over the world and I am filled with immense respect for them – to raise a child, or children, is a huge responsibility; it demands a high level of wisdom, patience, dedication and (with a few exceptions) it is the biggest demonstration of love I have ever seen. However, there are some situations involving parents that crack me up...and so, I decided to share with you what I find extremely amusing about parenthood, in three different cultures (Latin-European, urban African and European Anglo-Saxon). Have fun!

A teenager decides that the time has come for his voice to be heard, within the family. So, he begins to voice his opinion on issues considered to pertain to adults only. What’s the parents’ reaction?
Latin-European Parents: the father turns to the kid and (loudly) says “Shut up! Did anyone ask for your opinion? In this house, when an adult talks kids shut their mouth and listen...!”
Urban African Parents: the mother looks at her kid and says “one day you will have your own house and children; meaning that only then you will be able to say whatsoever in this house. Until then leave the opinion making for adults, ok? Now go and clean the kitchen with Lovely [the maid]!”
European Anglo-Saxon Parents: the mother (or father) will concur “you are right. It’s time for us to respect, and value, your opinion, after all you live in this house too – everything we decide will affect you as well. I promise you that whenever we need your help, we’ll ask you for it.”

Parents make any type of decision (be it the destination for holidays, to visit Auntie A or B etc) and transmit it to their kids, who disagree and propose that the family should vote. Parents reply that the decision is made to which the kids reply “I thought we lived in a democracy!”. What is the usual reaction to this?
Latin-European Parents: They look at each other (conveying, thus, their pride in their offspring), laugh, and the father says “What are you talking about: what democracy? This is a family...not a democratic state!”
Urban African Parents: They look at each other (conveying, thus, their disappointment in their derivatives), and say “Democracy? Is that what youngsters call lack of respect nowadays? In a family, adults decide and children obey. Why fight the system?”
European Anglo-Saxon Parents: they look at each other (endeavouring to conceal a smirk of pride, lest the kid thinks he’s being disrespected) and say “Well, in this family prevails a benign dictatorship!”.

During a family quarrel, the teenager decides to be bold, and independent, enough to raise his voice and say terrible (and disrespectful) things to his parents. What’s their reaction?
Latin-European Parents: the father will say “Oh, Oh, Oh!” out loud; the mother will cry “Ai...I never spoke to my parents like this, Ai!” and look at her husband as if commanding him to take action. The father slaps his kid and says “If you repeat the stunt ever again, I’ll beat you up so hard that you’ll fly to Spain, come back and still not know where you came from; you hear me?? Now apologise to your mother, vá!” [and pokes him in the head]
Urban African Parents: the mother rises from her chair and starts beating the hell out of her kid, while asking “Who the hell do you think you are to be talking to me like that?” and after finishing she’ll summon the whole family for a meeting, to decide what sort of punishment should be applied to the child.
European Anglo-Saxon Parents: both of them look hurt; but still they will try to reason with their kid, understand the root of his issues and (if needed be) make an appointment at the therapist.

The teenager starts dating. The parents’ reaction will vary accordingly to the kid’s gender:
Latin-European Parents: Boy “Son, you’re a man, so you have as many girls as you want to; but be careful with STDs, this AIDS thing...and don’t get her pregnant before finishing school either!”. Girl “WHAT!? You are only 17, and you want to be a tramp already...did your mother teach you this? If you get pregnant, you are out of this house! Oh, in the good old days women would finish school and wait until their father would introduce them to a nice and decent family man!”
Urban African Parents: Boy “If you get her pregnant, make sure her family understands that, back home, we only have 10 cows to contribute!”. Girl, “If you get pregnant, make sure his family understands that we accept no less than 20 cows and 7 oxen, as their contribution!”
European Anglo-Saxon Parents: Boy “Mind these modern diseases; don’t impregnate the young lady and remember to always respect her!”. Girl “Darling, I don’t mean to sound old fashioned, but do always respect yourself, make the right decisions and remember, a woman without finishing her education is doomed to be less than a hound!”

How about in your culture: what would be the reactions for this type of situations?


Image: St Francis in ecstacy (detail) by Caravaggio

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  1. Hi Max,
    Life is so wonderful on this glorious Max day. Love the title. And the photo. (Did she just knock him out or is she breast feeding?)

    Parenthood is indeed a huge undertaking. While I don't have children of my own by choice, I can certainly respect one's right to procreate. It is truly a miracle when one thinks of the deeper implications of the egg and fertilization dance. I am amazed just contemplating it.

    LOL, all of these examples are hilarious. Isn't that funny when it happens. I remember distinctly when my brother became 15 and he thought he became the man of the house until my mother brought him back down a few paces. She told him that if he went to work and supported the rest of the family then he could be the man of the house. He quickly reverted back into a teenager.


    "They look at each other (conveying, thus, their pride in their offspring), laugh, and the father says “What are you talking about: what democracy? This is a family...not a democratic state!”

    ROFL. So true. I noticed too that it may happen when the child is learning something in school, i.e. democracy and they decide to test it at home.

    "The father slaps his kid and says “If you repeat the stunt ever again, I’ll beat you up so hard that you’ll fly to Spain, come back and still not know where you came from; you hear me?? Now apologise to your mother, vá!” [and pokes him in the head]"

    LOL. I have seen this one so much in TV films. That's nice of the father to offer a free flight to Spain though. ;D

    "Urban African Parents: the mother rises from her chair and starts beating the hell out of her kid, while asking “Who the hell do you think you are to be talking to me like that?”

    That seems more likely and just a normal reaction. Except these days a parent may be arrested for touching their own child. (unfortunately)

    "European Anglo-Saxon Parents: both of them look hurt; but still they will try to reason with their kid, understand the root of his issues and (if needed be) make an appointment at the therapist."

    Didn't the Menendez brothers have a therapist before eventually killing their parents? I think pushing kids off to therapy is often a bad thing because a parent is still out of touch with their own child. If a parent maintains open communication with a child then a parent may be able to see where the child is coming from or heading. (This could be too much of an intellectual logic because I know that a parent can't always maintain open communication with their child.)

    “Son, you’re a man, so you have as many girls as you want to; but be careful with STDs, this AIDS thing...and don’t get her pregnant before finishing school either!”. Girl “WHAT!? You are only 17, and you want to be a tramp already...did your mother teach you this? If you get pregnant, you are out of this house!"

    This gender divide still irks me today. My parents had 4 sons and 2 daughters and they were protective of all of us. They told the boys the same thing as they told the girls - "We had kids young. You shouldn't!"

    “If you get her pregnant, make sure her family understands that, back home, we only have 10 cows to contribute!”.

    Ha ha ha ha ha ha. In some countries it still happens. I found that I could relate to all of them. This was a thoroughly entertaining piece my dear. I wonder what brought it on? Were you at a family gathering? Thinking about how your children will be? Thinking of ways to entertain us? Or just thinking as you usually do?

    Anyhow, I really enjoyed yet another profound conversation from the mighty Max. Thanks. I give gratitude everyday that I don't have children. You see, I am a child. LOL.

    Parent/Children Cheers!

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  2. Max,

    A fun one!!!
    “There is nothing more beautiful than parenthood.” – If I ever wonder what my greatest accomplishment is, I look at my three kids and the answer stares back at me.

    A teenager decides that the time has come for his voice to be heard, within the family. So, he begins to voice his opinion on issues considered to pertain to adults only. What’s the parents’ reaction?
    “European Anglo-Saxon Parents: the mother (or father) will concur “you are right. It’s time for us to respect, and value, your opinion, after all you live in this house too – everything we decide will affect you as well. I promise you that whenever we need your help, we’ll ask you for it.” “ – Oh, I wish I had said that to my kids. That’s perfect.

    Parents make any type of decision (be it the destination for holidays, to visit Auntie A or B etc) and transmit it to their kids, who disagree and propose that the family should vote. Parents reply that the decision is made to which the kids reply “I thought we lived in a democracy!”. What is the usual reaction to this?
    European Anglo-Saxon Parents: they look at each other (endeavouring to conceal a smirk of pride, lest the kid thinks he’s being disrespected) and say “Well, in this family prevails a benign dictatorship!”. – Nail on the head again!!

    “During a family quarrel, the teenager decides to be bold, and independent, enough to raise his voice and say terrible (and disrespectful) things to his parents. What’s their reaction?
    European Anglo-Saxon Parents: both of them look hurt; but still they will try to reason with their kid, understand the root of his issues and (if needed be) make an appointment at the therapist.” - You forgot the famous ‘go to your ro0m and when you are ready to apologize to your mother, you can come back down……as if I am beyond an apology.’

    “The teenager starts dating. The parents’ reaction will vary accordingly to the kid’s gender:
    European Anglo-Saxon Parents: Boy “Mind these modern diseases; don’t impregnate the young lady and remember to always respect her!”. Girl “Darling, I don’t mean to sound old fashioned, but do always respect yourself, make the right decisions and remember, a woman without finishing her education is doomed to be less than a hound!” “ – And of course the one I used for my daughter when she said that “the boys get treated differently” – “There is a double standard in this house, now get used to it!”

    BTW, should I add this to my "Conversation" window?

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  3. Hey Max!

    A classic Maximus….you had me ROFL…

    Ok let me take a shot at this but I will use two local cultures one is Urban Vancouver and the other Rural Prince George (a mid-sized northern British Columbia logging/natural resources “city”):

    Theme:
    A teenager decides that the time has come for his voice to be heard, within the family. So, he begins to voice his opinion on issues considered to pertain to adults only. What’s the parents’ reaction?

    Urban Vancouver: Mother: “That is a good idea perhaps we can get a government grant to implement it!” Father: “Quiet please I’m trying to watch the Canucks game!”

    Prince George (Northern BC): Mother: “If we wanted your opinion we would have asked for it, now get your rifle and go shoot us a moose for dinner.” Father: “Quiet I’m trying to watch the Canucks game! Could you grab me a beer?”

    Theme:
    Parents make any type of decision (be it the destination for holidays, to visit Auntie A or B etc) and transmit it to their kids, who disagree and propose that the family should vote. Parents reply that the decision is made to which the kids reply “I thought we lived in a democracy!”. What is the usual reaction to this?

    Urban Vancouver: Mother: “We never vote in the elections why would you think this is a democracy?” Father: “Quiet please I’m trying to watch the Canucks game!”

    Prince George (Northern BC): Mother: “We are not a democracy if you don’t want to come with us get a job!” Father: “Quiet I’m trying to watch the Canucks game and hey bring me a beer!”

    Theme:
    During a family quarrel, the teenager decides to be bold, and independent, enough to raise his voice and say terrible (and disrespectful) things to his parents. What’s their reaction?

    Urban Vancouver: Mother: “This is your child deal with them!” Father: “Hey turn that back on I’m in the middle of the Canucks game!”

    Prince George (Northern BC): Mother: “Well thank you for that your Majesty now get out of my sight before I shove sawdust up your nose!” Father: “Don’t get your mother upset while I’m watching the Canucks game, why don’t you get out of our sight, go out and get me some more beer!”

    Theme:
    The teenager starts dating. The parents’ reaction will vary accordingly to the kid’s gender:

    Urban Vancouver: To teenage daughter: Mother “Is your date a he or a she? Either ways it’s a good thing your on the pill, would you like some grass for your date?” Father: Are you bloody insane?!!! And your not going out in public wearing that!!!” To teenage son: Mother “Is your date a he or a she? If it’s a she is she on the pill? Did you get enough condoms from school? Would you like some grass for your date?” Father: “Cool is she hot? Can she get us free Canucks tickets?”

    Prince George (Northern BC): To teenage daughter: Mother “How big is his truck?” Father: “Are you bloody insane?!!! And your not going out in public wearing that!!!” To teenage son: Mother: “Oh is she a nice girl dear?” Father: “Cool is she hot? Does she have Canucks pay per view? Need me to pick up some beer for you?”

    I suppose you would call these our un-cultures…..

    :)

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  4. Quick note.....Livingsword had me on the floor. I literally could not stop laughing and I don't even like hockey.

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  5. Hi Max,
    I only have a moment tonight. But I simply have to say that this is a wonderful topic.

    You have helped me come to understand my parental skills so much better.

    See Max I am Anglo Saxon but apparently I was raised somewhere in between Urban African and Latin American.

    Thanks for finally explaining it to me.

    In turn my children were raised much the same way. Let's just say that I did not nor do I believe in a democracy within the home where children are concerned.

    And if I must say so myself my two girls turned out very well. One is an English professor and the other is an RN.

    The younger of the two is the nurse and also mother to my 4 grandsons.

    She did not follow my parenting skills. Her home is definitely Anglo Saxon. And it drives me crazy.

    Don't get me wrong I love her and the kids with all of my heart. But, I can only take so much and I run for the door.

    Children have to have very clear and defined boundaries from the very start.

    If this pattern is not set in stone from the earliest years then you might as well hang it up.

    Good one tonight Max. I am so glad I found you. I was inspired last night and wrote. I do so hope you will be able to drop in and read it.

    Night Max and thanks for letting us vent!
    Blessings of peace my new friend,

    P.S. BTW..i was busy venting that i actually have no clue as to what I have just said. I do so hope it makes sense because it felt good to say it.

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  6. Hey Slogbite….

    It pleases me immensely to have provided you with some generous laughter. We in British Columbia live for hockey (more Canadian stereotyping that is in deed accurate, actually the women love it almost as much as the men) unfortunately it feels like forever that the Canucks have been playing something alien to hockey but we are masochists!

    Speaking of aliens did you know you and I are both Dune and Lord of the Rings fans?

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  7. Hey Max,
    I hope you don't mind that Livingsword and I are having a private conversation on your site LOL).

    Personally, I have sworn off of being a sports fan....there is nothing in it for me except a few moments of exuberance and lots of frustration, with hours and hours of wasted time. I don't get it anymore.

    Dune is my all-time favorite book with the "Reality Dysfunction" series a close second.

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  8. Hi Lady A :D!

    "Life is so wonderful on this glorious Max day. Love the title. And the photo. (Did she just knock him out or is she breast feeding?)"

    Oooh, that is so sweet, thank you :D! Thanks, I am glad you liked it...(LOL LOL you know, I never looked at it that way? And it is a good reading too LOL. But let me go with it: I think she knocked him out because of all the silly things he was doing as a parent LOL).

    "Parenthood is indeed a huge undertaking. While I don't have children of my own by choice, I can certainly respect one's right to procreate. It is truly a miracle when one thinks of the deeper implications of the egg and fertilization dance. I am amazed just contemplating it."

    I agree with you. Girl, if you don't want them, don't have them...one shouldn't have kids just because society, or the body, says it should have, know what I mean? I also have a friend who doesn't want kids, and I totally support her in her choice.
    One must choose to be a parent, plan to be one, and most of all be conscious of what it means to be one (the kid comes always first).

    "LOL, all of these examples are hilarious. Isn't that funny when it happens. I remember distinctly when my brother became 15 and he thought he became the man of the house until my mother brought him back down a few paces. She told him that if he went to work and supported the rest of the family then he could be the man of the house. He quickly reverted back into a teenager."

    LOL LOL well, when one reads about these things, it is always different than experiencing it; however it does offer a new whole perspective, doesn't it?
    LOL LOL that is a normal reaction; and your mom handled it rather well :D!

    "ROFL. So true. I noticed too that it may happen when the child is learning something in school, i.e. democracy and they decide to test it at home."

    LOL true, true...I confess that even I went through this. I, too, decided to test democracy at home...didn't work LOL!

    "LOL. I have seen this one so much in TV films. That's nice of the father to offer a free flight to Spain though. ;D"

    LOL that's Latin-Europeans for you (now think that sometimes they do these scenes in public - a total embarrassment)! LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL yes, indeed...LOL and a quicker flight too LOL!

    "That seems more likely and just a normal reaction. Except these days a parent may be arrested for touching their own child. (unfortunately)"

    Oh, not here! The state once decided to persecute a mother who slapped her kid, and do you know what the judge said? He said "A slap, a spank, never hurt anybody! The child is hers, she raises him the best way she finds it fit! But please, no bruises, Mrs..."....so, in Portugal nobody is arrested for that.
    I think that in Italy, Spain and France nobody is arrested either...it is a cultural trait.

    "Didn't the Menendez brothers have a therapist before eventually killing their parents?"

    LOL LOL yes.

    "I think pushing kids off to therapy is often a bad thing because a parent is still out of touch with their own child."

    So true. And plus, it is a parent's responsibility to deal with its kid, and be mature and wise enough to know how to reach the kid's heart - making him regurgitate his traumas, issues etc.
    Plus, this is a form of bonding.

    "If a parent maintains open communication with a child then a parent may be able to see where the child is coming from or heading. (This could be too much of an intellectual logic because I know that a parent can't always maintain open communication with their child.)"

    Because parents lose themselves in their own ambitions (i.e. they project their ambitions, wishes, needs, on their kids and then when children don't respond to it...they go blind).
    Parents must accept that a kid is an individual soul, with his own purpose, and that their role is to mould (in terms of character building) their offspring, period. All the rest are details.

    "This gender divide still irks me today. My parents had 4 sons and 2 daughters and they were protective of all of us. They told the boys the same thing as they told the girls - "We had kids young. You shouldn't!""

    That is the perfect approach. But unfortunately it is not what happens in most cases. There is always two ways of dealing with kids - if it is a girl (Behaviour A) if it is a boy (Behaviour B)...so sad! Parents are the one who perpetuate the sexist cycle.

    "Ha ha ha ha ha ha. In some countries it still happens."

    Absolutely! In my family still happens...I heard that a cousin of mine got engaged, in Mozambique, and the whole family there gathered to negotiate the amount of cattle they'd receive - mind you, they all live in the city! Now, imagine if they'd live in the bush.

    "I found that I could relate to all of them. This was a thoroughly entertaining piece my dear. I wonder what brought it on? Were you at a family gathering? Thinking about how your children will be? Thinking of ways to entertain us? Or just thinking as you usually do?"

    :D you are incredible, darling - that's why I love you! Why, thank you *bowing*!
    LOL the truth is: 1- I watched a movie about a teen girl who had issues with her mom, and I started thinking if she were African/Portuguese her mom/dad would probably kick her butt around; 2- I wanted to entertain you guys (after all you deserved a good laugh after so many weeks of serious/heavy themes), which made me think about how I'd do it, and then how I would react if I were in such situations as a parent :).

    "Anyhow, I really enjoyed yet another profound conversation from the mighty Max. Thanks. I give gratitude everyday that I don't have children. You see, I am a child. LOL."

    Stop it...one day you will manage the unthinkable: make me blush LOL! Don't mention it, girl! And thanks for the kind words!
    LOL LOL I hear you LOL....hey, you could definitely fit in the African culture: we are considered to be children until we become part of the family's ancient council...imagine that!

    Alexys, thank you so much for this off the hook comment *bowing*! :D

    Parent Comedy Cheers

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  9. Hi Shinade! :D

    "I only have a moment tonight. But I simply have to say that this is a wonderful topic."

    It is good to have you here, even if for a second :)! Thank you, I am glad you liked it *bowing*!

    "You have helped me come to understand my parental skills so much better."

    I did? That is some compliment, thanks!

    "See Max I am Anglo Saxon but apparently I was raised somewhere in between Urban African and Latin American."

    LOL LOL I know what you mean...

    "Thanks for finally explaining it to me."

    You are welcome.... ;D

    "Let's just say that I did not nor do I believe in a democracy within the home where children are concerned."

    Neither did my mom! And to tell you the truth, if one is to have control over its family democracy must never be the system to be applied at home (that is my personal opinion).

    "And if I must say so myself my two girls turned out very well. One is an English professor and the other is an RN."

    Well done! :D so, your system paid off...

    "The younger of the two is the nurse and also mother to my 4 grandsons."

    Ooh, that is so great! She was blessed, and so were you! :)

    "She did not follow my parenting skills. Her home is definitely Anglo Saxon. And it drives me crazy."

    LOL LOL LOL...I can imagine!

    "Don't get me wrong I love her and the kids with all of my heart. But, I can only take so much and I run for the door."

    LOL LOL believe me, I know exactly what you mean LOL....

    "Children have to have very clear and defined boundaries from the very start."

    Amen to that!

    "Good one tonight Max. I am so glad I found you. I was inspired last night and wrote. I do so hope you will be able to drop in and read it."

    Shinade, I hope you had a good night! Me too, darling...I am extremely glad we met :D! You did? I will drop by and read it, thanks for having let me know!

    "Night Max and thanks for letting us vent! Blessings of peace my new friend,"

    This week, we will all vent, darling! Nevertheless, you are welcome :D! Thank you and may God bless you too, dear!

    "P.S. BTW..i was busy venting that i actually have no clue as to what I have just said. I do so hope it makes sense because it felt good to say it."

    LOL it made perfectly sense, don't worry! :D

    Shinade, thanks for the million dollar comment! I loved it :D!

    Cheers

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  10. Hey LS! :D

    "A classic Maximus….you had me ROFL…"

    LOL thank you! LOL I am glad you could roll on the floor laughing, man!

    "Ok let me take a shot at this but I will use two local cultures one is Urban Vancouver and the other Rural Prince George (a mid-sized northern British Columbia logging/natural resources “city”):"

    LOL great!!! Bring it on...I am loving the concept...let me see...

    "Urban Vancouver: Mother: “That is a good idea perhaps we can get a government grant to implement it!” Father: “Quiet please I’m trying to watch the Canucks game!”"

    LOL LOL Oh my....LOL LOL...I like the father's reaction - kind of Latin-like, huh? Except a Latin-European dad would say "Quiet, I am watching Benfica vsPorto match!" LOL (cause Sporting supporters are different LOL)

    "Prince George (Northern BC): Mother: “If we wanted your opinion we would have asked for it, now get your rifle and go shoot us a moose for dinner.” Father: “Quiet I’m trying to watch the Canucks game! Could you grab me a beer?”"

    LOL LOL mom's reaction is cool LOL! LOL LOL dad's reaction is again similar to a Latin-European dad.....oh my!

    "Urban Vancouver: Mother: “We never vote in the elections why would you think this is a democracy?” Father: “Quiet please I’m trying to watch the Canucks game!”"

    LOL LOL does dad know how to say anything else? LOL *nodding*...

    "Prince George (Northern BC): Mother: “We are not a democracy if you don’t want to come with us get a job!” Father: “Quiet I’m trying to watch the Canucks game and hey bring me a beer!”"

    ROFL @mom's reaction LOL LOL! Oh boy...this dad....*nodding*....

    "Urban Vancouver: Mother: “This is your child deal with them!” Father: “Hey turn that back on I’m in the middle of the Canucks game!”"

    ROFL....ROFL....ROFL.....dad is so pitiful! LOL

    "Prince George (Northern BC): Mother: “Well thank you for that your Majesty now get out of my sight before I shove sawdust up your nose!” Father: “Don’t get your mother upset while I’m watching the Canucks game, why don’t you get out of our sight, go out and get me some more beer!”"

    ROFL @mom LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL great!!! LOL LOL
    LOL now you're talking, dad LOL LOL! *nodding*.....

    "Urban Vancouver: To teenage daughter: Mother “Is your date a he or a she? Either ways it’s a good thing your on the pill, would you like some grass for your date?” Father: Are you bloody insane?!!! And your not going out in public wearing that!!!” To teenage son: Mother “Is your date a he or a she? If it’s a she is she on the pill? Did you get enough condoms from school? Would you like some grass for your date?” Father: “Cool is she hot? Can she get us free Canucks tickets?”"

    To daughter: LOL"he or she?" how modern! That is sad....mom!/ ROFL @dad!
    To son: LOL "he or she?" LOL "is she on the pill?" ROFL, hello!!! Oh so school is the one to provide condoms? So sad...again, so sad/ ROFL @dad...so sad!

    "Prince George (Northern BC): To teenage daughter: Mother “How big is his truck?” Father: “Are you bloody insane?!!! And your not going out in public wearing that!!!” To teenage son: Mother: “Oh is she a nice girl dear?” Father: “Cool is she hot? Does she have Canucks pay per view? Need me to pick up some beer for you?”"

    Daughter: ROFL@mom/ROFL@dad LOL typical!
    Son: LOL@mom..typical/LOL LOL dad is a lunatic!

    "I suppose you would call these our un-cultures….."

    No, you couldn't be more wrong! They are extremely interesting cultures as well...thank you for sharing them with us!

    LS, thanks a million for this hilarious moment...I laughed like crazy!! LOL ;D

    Cheers

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  11. Hey Mel! :D

    "A fun one!!!"

    lol indeed...you guys needed a break from heavy issues LOL...

    "If I ever wonder what my greatest accomplishment is, I look at my three kids and the answer stares back at me."

    Oohh, that is so beautiful *tender face*!

    "Oh, I wish I had said that to my kids. That’s perfect."

    LOL please tell me you're joking...

    "European Anglo-Saxon Parents: they look at each other (endeavouring to conceal a smirk of pride, lest the kid thinks he’s being disrespected) and say “Well, in this family prevails a benign dictatorship!”. – Nail on the head again!!"

    LOL LOL in this case, I also agree. There is no democracy in a family.

    "You forgot the famous ‘go to your ro0m and when you are ready to apologize to your mother, you can come back down……as if I am beyond an apology.’ "

    LOL LOL I didn't forget, I just wanted to put the most satirical ones. True, dads always say "apologise to your mother"...I wonder why?

    "– And of course the one I used for my daughter when she said that “the boys get treated differently” – “There is a double standard in this house, now get used to it!”"

    ROFL...at least you were honest! LOL *nodding*...don't you feel that you were wrong, Mel? Don't you think that sexism is not the way to deal with these issues?

    "BTW, should I add this to my "Conversation" window?" -please do....& thank you :D!

    Mel, thank you ever so much for this fantastic comment...I laughed hard, man LOL!

    Cheers

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  12. Mel,

    LS is crazy LOL LOL *nodding*! I was laughing so hard that tears were running down my cheeks LOL LOL!

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  13. LS & Mel;

    Oh my God...what a pair: Lord of the Rings fans?

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  14. Mel,

    "I hope you don't mind that Livingsword and I are having a private conversation on your site LOL)."

    LOL no, not at all...please do talk away! LOL

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  15. "– And of course the one I used for my daughter when she said that “the boys get treated differently” – “There is a double standard in this house, now get used to it!”"

    ROFL...at least you were honest! LOL *nodding*...don't you feel that you were wrong, Mel? Don't you think that sexism is not the way to deal with these issues?

    - I was half serious about the double standard. Let's face it. The way a man dresses cannot get him into trouble, unless you call indecent exposure trouble. However, the way a woman dresses can get her in trouble. Also, if my son is late coming home, I worry that he didn't get into an accident. But if my daughter is late coming home, well you can guess what I would think.

    Max, there is a double standard and it is not sexism, it's male nature. ------- Another topic for you?

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  16. Mel,

    "I was half serious about the double standard. Let's face it. The way a man dresses cannot get him into trouble, unless you call indecent exposure trouble. However, the way a woman dresses can get her in trouble. Also, if my son is late coming home, I worry that he didn't get into an accident. But if my daughter is late coming home, well you can guess what I would think."

    Oh my Lord...that goes beyond double standard...it is too much imagination and sexism!
    As far as I am concerned, my brother can get in more trouble than I would. For example, when I used to go clubbing I'd spent the whole night dancing, I didn't drink, I didn't mess around with anybody; whereas my brother would drink, mess around with every single girl in the club...now imagine if he would get one of them pregnant? Wouldn't this reflect on our family too? It would, specially because in my family blood counts a lot, and we do not abandon our blood just like that. Now, if the mother of that child (a complete stranger that my brother decided to irresponsibly impregnate) were a complete harlot, wouldn't this bring troubles to my family? It would, more troubles than if I would be the one getting pregnant.
    Plus, fathers need to stop imagining their daughters having sex...this is the basic issue here. They think of the things they used to do with other men's daughters and start picturing some guy doing the same to their kids...oy!

    "Max, there is a double standard and it is not sexism, it's male nature. ------- Another topic for you?"

    LOL male nature? LOL no, it is male taught "nature"! Since men began to rule, they decided that they had to control women's sexuality as some sort of dominium over other men. They found out that a woman's vagina is more precious and valuable then gold, specially if virgin (again, another concept designed to control women).

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  17. Max,
    I have to respectfully and partially disagree. Man's nature is polygamous and controlling. Man has to be taught to be monogamous and respectful.

    Again basic natures are for men to dominant and women to be subservient. That is the way of nature. Man is physically stronger and women are physically weaker and bare children. Man is the provider and woman is the homemaker. Now before you you get yourself in a uproar, that does not work in civilized society. The lines are now blurred. Man needs to control his "wild" side and women are taking more and more control of their own lives.

    But, basic nature will always be just beneath the surface. It is an ongoing uphill battle against "basic human nature."

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  18. Hey Slogbite (I love writing that),

    By now Max is used to our eccentricities…. :)……as we are of hers :)

    Actually I stopped watching sports on TV for several years myself but then I purchased an elliptical trainer to get more exercise and so I watch TV to help distract me from the monotony. Sports is excellent for this as are Survivor and CSI Vegas (although my wife Chocolate Girl prefers Home and Garden…how can anybody work out to Home and Garden?!!!!!)

    I read the original Dune books by Frank Herbert but over the past 1-2 years I have started reading all the newer books by his son and Kevin J. Anderson I liked them so much that I have now also read Anderson’s Saga of the Seven Suns series which you would probably like.

    The Reality Dysfunction is on my shelf (along with the rest of The Night’s Dawn Trilogy) for next year’s reading, Hamilton’s book Pandora’s Star is 4th from the top of my fiction pile to be read….

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  19. Mel,

    "I have to respectfully and partially disagree. Man's nature is polygamous and controlling. Man has to be taught to be monogamous and respectful."

    You may disagree, buddy, it's ok! Now, let's get down to this *rubbing my hands together*...
    No, man' nature is not polygamous: if this were totally true every man, in old times, would've been polygamous...Isaac and Moses weren't.
    Men were taught to be polygamous (and many times encouraged by their own wives) because they had to breed as much as they could, as a political weapon to populate their lands.
    About men being controlling: yes, they are. But so are women (if not more than them, only in a different style).
    Both man and women need to be taught how to be respectful and monogamous (let a woman in the wild with 3 men, and you will see what she is capable of. The men will be the ones fighting for her utter attention and "possession").

    "Again basic natures are for men to dominant and women to be subservient. That is the way of nature. Man is physically stronger and women are physically weaker and bare children. Man is the provider and woman is the homemaker."

    Provocation, provocation LOL LOL...*nodding*.
    Well, as I said a vagina plays a strong role in a relationship between a man and a woman. Despite the female body being more fragile than a man's, the fact that she owns a certain reproductive organ seems to grant her more powers to dominate a man than the opposite. And when she is utterly intelligent and possesses a high self-esteem...it is even worse.
    I agree that a man is the provider; and that a woman may have more skills to be a homemaker (because there are women that I pray to stay the hell out of a kitchen, and exempt themselves from home-cleaning). But I would go further and say that women who decide to be mothers should stay at home and take care of them (those who cannot afford to stay at home, should have support from the government to do so).

    "Now before you you get yourself in a uproar, that does not work in civilized society. The lines are now blurred. Man needs to control his "wild" side and women are taking more and more control of their own lives."

    ROFL....*tears in my eyes* LOL LOL LOL! Mel, this is not enough to get myself in an uproar LOL *nodding*!
    But a woman can have control of her life and still be a homemaker. My mom stayed at home with my brother and me and, God knows, that she had an enormous control over her life - no man can play games with that lady LOL!
    I do not depict men as complete beasts, au contraire, they are fine creatures that were designed to work and provide for the family; and the Gender Revolution II (having been the first during the IXth century when women were usurped of their power) made them a little bit confused...
    But eventually both women and men will realise that they must work together, not one gender ruling over the other. That is Human Nature.

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  20. Hi LS,
    My elliptical is in my garage with my other exercise equipment, which I am getting ready to sell. I am actually using the WII Fit for exercise.

    Unfortunately, since I discovered blogging, my scifi reading has greatly diminished. Have you read the series that began with "Ender's Game." I also HIGHLY recommend this one.

    BTW, you should come over to http://www.SlogBite.Com and join the fun. However, it is not a place for conversations. You will see what I mean if you visit.

    Max is the place for meaningful conversations........right Max?

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  21. LS,

    Sorry to be barging into your "entretien"...but there are two things I must react to:

    "By now Max is used to our eccentricities…. :)……as we are of hers :)"

    LOL LOL true! :)

    "(although my wife Chocolate Girl prefers Home and Garden…how can anybody work out to Home and Garden?!!!!!)"

    LOL LOL *nodding*....you are terrible!

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  22. Mel,

    "Max is the place for meaningful conversations........right Max?"

    Absolutely! ;D

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  23. Max,
    In my previous diatribe I forgot one VERY important point, because of man's superior strength (I know that a lot of men may disagree), god, in his infinite wisdom, and to level the playing field, made women more devious, manipulative and dare I say it, smarter. In reality, we men don't stand much of a chance.

    Now, let the games begin (oh, are we in for it now!)

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  24. Mel,

    "In my previous diatribe I forgot one VERY important point, because of man's superior strength (I know that a lot of men may disagree), god, in his infinite wisdom, and to level the playing field, made women more devious, manipulative and dare I say it, smarter. In reality, we men don't stand much of a chance."

    I knew I was doing well to let you bring the Almighty into this conversation lol.
    Now, I agree with you: women are devious, manipulative and smarter. Why? Because they are way too intelligent, and full of resources to plot (feminists will want to kill me, if they ever read this LOL). Women have this ability to wash, pray and plot how to get what they want from anybody all at the same time! They are capable of cooking, praying, thinking of how to get sex from their tired husband, planning how to improve their kids' grades in school, plotting against their neighbour all at the same time! Are they cool or what?
    You need to start a rumour, or trigger a political intrigue, put a woman in charge: they will do it with such panache, they we feel compelled to forgive Eve for having eaten the fruit LOL LOL LOL!
    And I agree again, men don't stand a chance! Women are way more intelligent, way...

    "Now, let the games begin (oh, are we in for it now!)"

    LOL LOL yes, let the games begin :D!!

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  25. Hi Maxie,

    "Girl, if you don't want them, don't have them...one shouldn't have kids just because society, or the body, says it should have, know what I mean?"

    Many don't understand that, but I am certainly glad that you do. Having children is a lifestyle change.

    "I also have a friend who doesn't want kids, and I totally support her in her choice."

    Now you have two friends. :D

    "One must choose to be a parent, plan to be one, and most of all be conscious of what it means to be one (the kid comes always first)."

    Exactly. They HAVE to come first.

    "LOL LOL well, when one reads about these things, it is always different than experiencing it; however it does offer a new whole perspective, doesn't it?"

    There is nothing like experiencing it, I agree.

    "LOL LOL that is a normal reaction; and your mom handled it rather well :D!"

    We still tease my brother to this day.

    "LOL true, true...I confess that even I went through this. I, too, decided to test democracy at home...didn't work LOL!"

    ROFL.

    "LOL that's Latin-Europeans for you (now think that sometimes they do these scenes in public - a total embarrassment)! LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL yes, indeed...LOL and a quicker flight too LOL!"

    OMG. In public no doubt. LOL. Poor kids.

    "Oh, not here! The state once decided to persecute a mother who slapped her kid, and do you know what the judge said? He said "A slap, a spank, never hurt anybody! The child is hers, she raises him the best way she finds it fit! But please, no bruises, Mrs..."....so, in Portugal nobody is arrested for that. I think that in Italy, Spain and France nobody is arrested either...it is a cultural trait."

    No kidding. I am pleasantly surprised. It's about time that the power goes back to the parents, not the government (except in extreme cases.)

    "And plus, it is a parent's responsibility to deal with its kid, and be mature and wise enough to know how to reach the kid's heart - making him regurgitate his traumas, issues etc. Plus, this is a form of bonding."

    I concur. Look at the animal kingdom, they are great at bonding. When was the last time you saw a gorilla or a lion in therapy?

    "Because parents lose themselves in their own ambitions (i.e. they project their ambitions, wishes, needs, on their kids and then when children don't respond to it...they go blind)."

    I know what you mean. Some kids are the recipients of the broken dreams of their parents. Other kids ARE the dreams of their parents.

    "Parents must accept that a kid is an individual soul, with his own purpose, and that their role is to mould (in terms of character building) their offspring, period. All the rest are details."

    Yes, they must realize that kids are Souls who have been sent to them for reasons beyond their immediate grasp.

    "Parents are the one who perpetuate the sexist cycle."

    True.

    "Absolutely! In my family still happens...I heard that a cousin of mine got engaged, in Mozambique, and the whole family there gathered to negotiate the amount of cattle they'd receive - mind you, they all live in the city! Now, imagine if they'd live in the bush."

    I HAVE to know Max. How many sheep, cows, oxen are you worth? Enquiring minds want to know. I feel a new screenplay developing - "Sheep And The City."

    ":D you are incredible, darling - that's why I love you!"

    The feeling is mutual my dear.

    "LOL the truth is: 1- I watched a movie about a teen girl who had issues with her mom, and I started thinking if she were African/Portuguese her mom/dad would probably kick her butt around.."

    ROFL. ROFL. ROFL.

    "I wanted to entertain you guys (after all you deserved a good laugh after so many weeks of serious/heavy themes), which made me think about how I'd do it, and then how I would react if I were in such situations as a parent :)."

    You read us well. We could all use a mental break.

    "...one day you will manage the unthinkable: make me blush."

    Oh, I like a challenge.

    "....hey, you could definitely fit in the African culture: we are considered to be children until we become part of the family's ancient council...imagine that!"

    How cool is that? I can imagine.

    Thank you darling for invigorating the discussion.

    Parenthood Cheers!

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  26. hi max! how are you?

    this is another good post, urban african parents, hmmmm, sounds familiar, lol. they sound like my parents!

    european anglo-saxon parents, that's me! hehe,

    “Mind these modern diseases; don’t impregnate the young lady and remember to always respect her!”. Girl “Darling, I don’t mean to sound old fashioned, but do always respect yourself, make the right decisions and remember, a woman without finishing her education is doomed to be less than a hound!”

    those are what i always tell my kids. ;)

    filipino "old parents" are so much like urban african parents but times change and we, the "younger parents" are like european anglo-saxon parents.

    i love this post, made me smile while reading ;)

    cheers

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  27. Hi Slogbite!

    LOL I think most garage sales would be more accurately described as “unused exercise equipment sales” LOL I have a friend with an exercise bike that complains that it never helped them lose any weight even after 4 years of it acting as a clothing hanger! LOL I lost 60lbs with the elliptical so I am rather fond of it…as long as I can watch TV while using it! Do you find the WII is doing the job?

    My blogging experience is the opposite LOL. I have always been an avid reader but since I started blogging I read even more to expand my knowledge base and creativity.

    I have not read the “Enders Game” series but am familiar with it and have intended to read it; you just moved it closer to the top of the list! What do you think of the reimagined Battlestar Galactica?

    I would be pleased to beam over to your place and of course you are also welcome to enter the zone of http://lifeontheblade.blogspot.com/

    LOL “Meaningful conversations”…can you imagine what this place would look like if we all had deep meaningful conversations with one another and not just with Max? Chaos! LOL

    We are dramatically raising the number of comments with this kind of conversation….

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  28. Dear Maximus….

    Yes Mel and I are Lord of the Rings fans and also Dune fans…you can run but you cannot hide now you know what I am trying to convert you to!!! LOL

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  29. Hey Max,
    I hope you don;t think less of me now that you know my alternative lifestyle (SciFi, that is.)

    Dune is what got me started. Most SciFi deal a lot with religiosity with some very interesting takes.

    You should try it.....expand your imaginative horizons.

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  30. Hey Max and Slogbite,

    Dune is very interesting in its presentation of religion and philosophy and so is Battlestar Galactica. Good Sci-Fi often is pursuing transcendence with believable scientific concepts blended in.

    Slogbite this is a good time for us to have long convoluted conversations about Sci-Fi because Max will be asleep in Europe and we both live on the West Coast…. :)

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  31. Hi Slogbite…

    I visited your latest manifestation ala your link (you certainly are a creative fellow!). It is an interesting concept…I am not sure how it helps me to “see the best before you see the rest” are there standards of quality that you are insuring to guarantee “the best”?

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  32. Livingsword,
    It is up to each participant to put forth their best post in each category they chose to participate in. I would not dare to judge their concepts of quality. That is the job of the reader.

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  33. Hi Lady A!

    "Many don't understand that, but I am certainly glad that you do. Having children is a lifestyle change."

    Absolutely!!

    "Now you have two friends. :D"

    :D yes, I do, darling!!

    "We still tease my brother to this day."

    LOL LOL I can imagine...poor guy! Will you ever cut him some slack?

    "ROFL."

    LOL....

    "OMG. In public no doubt. LOL. Poor kids."

    LOL poor kids, indeed...but at the same time, it is entertaining for those who are not going through it...humans are odd!

    "No kidding. I am pleasantly surprised. It's about time that the power goes back to the parents, not the government (except in extreme cases.)"

    I kid you not. "Power to the Parenthood!" LOL...but in cases of abuse, yeah...the state should intervene. There some crazy, pervert, mind distorted parents out there...*nodding*.

    "I concur. Look at the animal kingdom, they are great at bonding. When was the last time you saw a gorilla or a lion in therapy?"

    ROFL....Hmmm let me see...no, never...I never saw a gorilla or a lion in therapy (at least not in this life)!

    "I know what you mean. Some kids are the recipients of the broken dreams of their parents. Other kids ARE the dreams of their parents."

    Yes...Indeed.

    "Yes, they must realize that kids are Souls who have been sent to them for reasons beyond their immediate grasp."

    Absolutely...but even this understanding is beyond their grasp, sad *nodding*!

    "I HAVE to know Max. How many sheep, cows, oxen are you worth? Enquiring minds want to know. I feel a new screenplay developing - "Sheep And The City.""

    LOL LOL LOL LOL well, unfortunately, I wasn't subject to this ritual (since I am in Europe); but if I had undergone the tradition I'd say my mom would have asked for 50,000 heads minimum LOL! ROFL@new screenplay LOL LOL LOL "The Sheep And The City" LOL LOL...ROFL.....*tears rolling down* LOL LOL LOL....excellent line!!

    "The feeling is mutual my dear."

    I know :D!

    "ROFL. ROFL. ROFL."

    LOL it's true...

    "You read us well. We could all use a mental break."

    I aim to please my readers; after all they are worth gold :D!

    "Oh, I like a challenge."

    LOL LOL LOL....I see...

    "How cool is that? I can imagine."

    I'd say it is extremely cool, except for a rule or two lol.

    "Thank you darling for invigorating the discussion."

    My pleasure, dear :D!

    Laughing @ Parenthood Cheers

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  34. Hey Liza :D!

    "how are you?"

    I am quite all right, thank you! And yourself?

    "this is another good post, urban african parents, hmmmm, sounds familiar, lol. they sound like my parents!"

    LOL LOL I know what you mean!

    "european anglo-saxon parents, that's me! hehe,"

    LOL really? That is interesting! :D

    "those are what i always tell my kids. ;)"

    Wise words, darling ;)!

    "filipino "old parents" are so much like urban african parents but times change and we, the "younger parents" are like european anglo-saxon parents"

    That is interesting! Well, I think I would mix the styles: take the best out of three and use them lol...but let's see!

    "i love this post, made me smile while reading ;)"

    Oh, I am so glad, darling!! If it put a smile on your face, it was all worth it, then :)!

    Liza, thanks for your input...I absolutely loved it :D!

    Cheers

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  35. LSus,

    LOL You are trying to convert me to Sci-fi? Phew...that's a relief LOL LOL! ;)
    I'll see what I can do for you LOL *nodding*...

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  36. Mel,

    "I hope you don;t think less of me now that you know my alternative lifestyle (SciFi, that is.)"

    LOL LOL LOL no, it is impossible to think less of the author of "Are you Prepared for Success?" :D!
    Your alternative lifestyle is fine...

    "Dune is what got me started. Most SciFi deal a lot with religiosity with some very interesting takes."

    I know it does...does Matrix fall into this category (Sci-fi)?

    "You should try it.....expand your imaginative horizons."

    You know, I have commenced to try: http://sol3news.blogspot.com...for now, it is as far as I can go.

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  37. LS and Mel,

    "Dune is very interesting in its presentation of religion and philosophy and so is Battlestar Galactica. Good Sci-Fi often is pursuing transcendence with believable scientific concepts blended in."

    So, you have told me in the Sci-Fi conversion classes, LS...

    "Slogbite this is a good time for us to have long convoluted conversations about Sci-Fi because Max will be asleep in Europe and we both live on the West Coast…. :)"

    ROFL...

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  38. Max,

    Thanks for your comments and for reading parts of the fairy tale... I absolutely am aware of its flaws and need for revision, so I appreciate your diplomacy!

    On the whole I am just trying to get the story out and allowing fellow writers (and readers) to see what a story might look like in rough draft form. Most people won't post prior to perceived perfection, and I am intentionally bucking this trend with this story.

    I don't do this with all my writing, but in this instance I'm trying to release my creativity by not being bound with thoughts of perfection. I first want to capture the essence of the story, then I will go about refining it! In some ways it is a study in form - from genesis to completion - and I'm still in the genesis phase!

    Grace and thanks to you!
    Madison

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  39. Hello Madison!

    "Thanks for your comments and for reading parts of the fairy tale... I absolutely am aware of its flaws and need for revision, so I appreciate your diplomacy!"

    You are most welcome, darling *bowing*! I understand that it is still raw, but I also see that it has a lot of potential.

    "On the whole I am just trying to get the story out and allowing fellow writers (and readers) to see what a story might look like in rough draft form. Most people won't post prior to perceived perfection, and I am intentionally bucking this trend with this story."

    It is a great concept, and I salute you for your courage. And it is funny that you're mentioning the perfectionism in writers, because over at MW society Press this issue was being discussed at http://mwsociety.wordpress.com/2008/10/09/the-psychology-of-writers-ferox/

    "I first want to capture the essence of the story, then I will go about refining it! In some ways it is a study in form - from genesis to completion - and I'm still in the genesis phase!"

    I can understand that. And as I said, you are one brave writer!

    "Grace and thanks to you!"

    Thank you, and you are welcome :D!
    I will go back and read the rest of the tale...

    Cheers

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  40. Hi Max,

    LOL LOL I can imagine...poor guy! Will you ever cut him [brother] some slack?"

    No. It's too funny.

    "LOL poor kids, indeed...but at the same time, it is entertaining for those who are not going through it...humans are odd!"

    A real popcorn moment. (like when watching a film)

    "I wasn't subject to this ritual (since I am in Europe); but if I had undergone the tradition I'd say my mom would have asked for 50,000 heads minimum LOL! ROFL@new screenplay LOL LOL LOL "The Sheep And The City" LOL LOL...ROFL.....*tears rolling down* LOL LOL LOL....excellent line!!"

    50,000 huh? I must correct you. There are not enough sheep in the world to trade for you. You are priceless - and sheepless. Another screenplay idea: Sheepless in Seattle (and Portgual) ROFL. ROFL.

    "I aim to please my readers; after all they are worth gold :D!"

    You do a marvelous job. We feel loved.

    Sheepless Cheers!

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  41. This is funny, Max! I am suddenly reminded of how Jeff and I talk. When he reasons out, sometimes I feel like hearing my own voice. He talks just like me at times. This often happens when we discuss things and I ended up thinking, 'He has a point'. But normally, since he's 10 already (turning 11 on January), I ask for his opinion. My husband works in another country and Jeff and I decide the small stuff together ;o)

    But back then when I was a child, I am not allowed to talk and I got spanked when I answered back. This is why I am different with my son. I don't hit him. I just punish him with like 'No TV tonight', No playing of your PlayStation' or 'No computer'.

    Happy blogging! ;o)

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  42. Lol, great post max.

    Now having gone through life with 2 daughters I can relate big time.

    They went through the 3 stages, the first being all proud of you, when you show up at school to pick them up they go running to you and tell all their friends that I was their Daddy.

    The second stage is when they have friends over and we(my wife and I) were to leave the house or stay is the basement and don't dare come up.

    And the third, well we are still working on that, when they talk with you instead of at you and respect the things you tell them.

    Children are a tremendous gift from God and have enriched our lives, or should I say completed our lives and have learned just as much from them as I hoped they have learned from us.

    As far as your examples, wow, no set rules , I think being a parent I have used all 3 styles at one time or another,lol, unfortunately there is no real guide book for parents, kind of a learn as you go and hopefully no one gets hurt in the process, which by the way only ends when we die,lol.

    I can't put into words the utter love I have for them and how they have enriched and completed my life.

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  43. Hi Lady A!

    "No. It's too funny."

    ROFL....it is cool to make funny of our siblings, isn't it? LOL...

    "A real popcorn moment. (like when watching a film)"

    Yes, we can call it that lol....

    "50,000 huh? I must correct you. There are not enough sheep in the world to trade for you. You are priceless - and sheepless."

    Oooh, thank you *hug*! You are really in for the challenge, eh (making me blush)? lol...
    "Sheepless" LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL indeed, I am...in every sense of the word LOL LOL *nodding*!

    "Another screenplay idea: Sheepless in Seattle (and Portgual) ROFL. ROFL."

    ROFL....ROFL....that was a good one, girl LOL LOL LOL LOL!

    "You do a marvelous job. We feel loved."

    Thanks, and I am glad you guys do! Cause the MAX is all about you! :D

    "ROFLing@ Sheepless" Cheers

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  44. Hello Abelle :D!

    Welcome to the MAX!!

    "This is funny, Max! I am suddenly reminded of how Jeff and I talk. When he reasons out, sometimes I feel like hearing my own voice. He talks just like me at times. This often happens when we discuss things and I ended up thinking, 'He has a point'. But normally, since he's 10 already (turning 11 on January), I ask for his opinion. My husband works in another country and Jeff and I decide the small stuff together ;o)"

    Why thank you *bowing*! Oh, that is so sweet! So Jeff is the little man in the house, eh? You and your boy are a team...I know how that goes :D!

    "But back then when I was a child, I am not allowed to talk and I got spanked when I answered back. This is why I am different with my son. I don't hit him. I just punish him with like 'No TV tonight', No playing of your PlayStation' or 'No computer'."

    And you know what? It is a good system, darling :D! I don't condone violence either, I think that we can be creative when it comes to punishing kids.

    "Happy blogging! ;o)"

    Thank you, and I wish you the same - you do a wonderful job in your blog :D!

    Abelle, thanks for having dropped by and shared your wonderful relationship with Jeff :)! Please feel free to return!

    Cheers

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  45. Hello Bob! :D

    "Lol, great post max."

    lol thank you, Lord of the Astropics *bowing*!

    "Now having gone through life with 2 daughters I can relate big time."

    I can imagine...lol (the Portuguese would say: 2 daughters? Poor you! lol although they are crazy about their kids)

    "They went through the 3 stages, the first being all proud of you, when you show up at school to pick them up they go running to you and tell all their friends that I was their Daddy."

    Ooh, that is a classic! I think most of us went through that one...it is so sweet! And parents swell of pride :D!

    "The second stage is when they have friends over and we(my wife and I) were to leave the house or stay is the basement and don't dare come up."

    ROFL....parents suffer LOL *nodding*!

    "And the third, well we are still working on that, when they talk with you instead of at you and respect the things you tell them."

    LOL I hear you!! So, you still have some work to do...

    "Children are a tremendous gift from God and have enriched our lives, or should I say completed our lives and have learned just as much from them as I hoped they have learned from us."

    Amen to that! *tender face*

    "As far as your examples, wow, no set rules , I think being a parent I have used all 3 styles at one time or another,lol, unfortunately there is no real guide book for parents, kind of a learn as you go and hopefully no one gets hurt in the process, which by the way only ends when we die,lol."

    LOL LOL true, my mom also says the same "it only ends when we die"! You are right, there is no real guide book, and that is why parents' reactions make me laugh, it is funny (for those who are on the outside, and also now that we are not in that position we laugh lol)!

    "I can't put into words the utter love I have for them and how they have enriched and completed my life."

    Oooh, Bob...that is so incredibly sweet *tender face*! You reminded me of my mom, once again, she also says the same thing!

    Lord of the Astropics, thank you so much for having shared your personal experience with us; and your love for your baby girls moved me :)!

    Cheers

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  46. hi max! i just want to wish you a great weekend. take care :)

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  47. Hi! I can only speak for boys, as we never had a daughter. But if we had, she or they would have been perfect little angels. Now for my take on things:

    1. A teenager decides that the time has come for his voice to be heard, within the family. So, he begins to voice his opinion on issues considered to pertain to adults only. What’s the parents’ reaction?

    Australia:

    It all depends if he was going off half-cocked or not. If it appeared that he was on the right track, we’d give him a number of scenarios to see if he could come up with right solutions. If he failed to see the light, at least it would be food for thought. Now, if he was being down right rude or disrespectful, we’d ban him from playing football or cricket or hanging out with his mates for a least a week. Mind you, with us, this did not always work!


    2. Parents make any type of decision (be it the destination for holidays, to visit Auntie A or B etc) and transmit it to their kids, who disagree and propose that the family should vote. Parents reply that the decision is made to which the kids reply “I thought we lived in a democracy!”. What is the usual reaction to this?

    Australia:

    Yes my son, you do live in a democratic society but on this occasion, like many other occasions, you’ve been vetoed. Now get in the car or else!


    3. During a family quarrel, the teenager decides to be bold, and independent, enough to raise his voice and say terrible (and disrespectful) things to his parents. What’s their reaction?

    Australia:

    Considering at the time our children were too big to smack, we grounded them. They’d be sent off to their bedroom until they thought better. Again this did not always work, as on some occasions they’d only bolt out the bedroom window to sulk with consoling mates.


    4. The teenager starts dating. The parents’ reaction will vary accordingly to the kid’s gender:

    Australia:

    If you’re going to have sex, pleeeese wear a condom!


    That’s all folks!

    Take Care,
    Peter

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  48. Oh, this was hilarious!

    My parents, although very liberals, are Latin parents. My husband's are Chinese. Which means that both set of parents still tell us to wear warm clothes when we go out and to not go to bed too late :D

    I still can't believe the BS here in North America about listening to a 2 yrs old's opinion and choices etc. I do love kids but kids... are kids, right?

    Sorry it that comes up a bit strong but there are so many "how to raise your kid" advise here in North America, I just find it too much. Love your kids I'd say. You will make mistakes as a parents but they won't hate you for that... as long as you love them!

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  49. Max:

    This is so funny and you are right on.

    In our household, I wasn't allowed an opinion on anything other than those few things that directly affected me, namely school and play. Even then my opinions were kept to I like it, or I don't like it. Not a lot of depth there.

    My sister, on the other hand, was given a wide birth in the expression of her opinions. She could comment on food, television programs, vacations spots, and most of everything else.

    So, what does all this mean? To me, I think girls get their way, and boys ride in the caboose. Then when boys grow up, we face a life long effort of trying to get our way as payback for our early childhood suppression. That's why men are so pig headed.LOL!

    Happy trails.

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  50. Hey Dual,

    Welcome to the MAX and thanks :D!

    Cheers

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  51. Hi Liza,

    Thanks, darling :D! I did have a fantastic weekend...must have been the good vibes coming from your side :)!

    Cheers

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  52. Hi Peter :D!

    "I can only speak for boys, as we never had a daughter. But if we had, she or they would have been perfect little angels. Now for my take on things:"

    LOL LOL LOL I am sure they would, Pete LOL LOL....

    "It all depends if he was going off half-cocked or not. If it appeared that he was on the right track, we’d give him a number of scenarios to see if he could come up with right solutions. If he failed to see the light, at least it would be food for thought. Now, if he was being down right rude or disrespectful, we’d ban him from playing football or cricket or hanging out with his mates for a least a week. Mind you, with us, this did not always work!"

    LOL LOL this is a jolly great system, mate! I like it!
    Oh...it didn't work? LOL LOL....so much for my thought about implementing it on my kids LOL....

    "Yes my son, you do live in a democratic society but on this occasion, like many other occasions, you’ve been vetoed. Now get in the car or else!"

    LOL LOL LOL....great answer!

    "Considering at the time our children were too big to smack, we grounded them. They’d be sent off to their bedroom until they thought better. Again this did not always work, as on some occasions they’d only bolt out the bedroom window to sulk with consoling mates."

    LOL LOL LOL *nodding*...
    In Summa: there is no perfect system to raise kids...

    "If you’re going to have sex, pleeeese wear a condom!"

    Amen to that!

    "That’s all folks!"

    LOL Aaah, Peter...this was incredibly entertaining! Thanks for having given us the Aussie perspective, I laughed, I loved it, you rock!

    Thanks once again!

    Cheers

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  53. Salut Zhu,

    "Oh, this was hilarious!"

    LOL thank you, I laughed myself LOL! :D

    "My parents, although very liberals, are Latin parents. My husband's are Chinese. Which means that both set of parents still tell us to wear warm clothes when we go out and to not go to bed too late :D"

    LOL I can relate, girl! :D

    "I still can't believe the BS here in North America about listening to a 2 yrs old's opinion and choices etc. I do love kids but kids... are kids, right?"

    Absolutely!! A 2 years old kid should shut up and listen...perhaps when it turns 10 we might ask for its opinion, but if not: handle it, kid!

    "Sorry it that comes up a bit strong but there are so many "how to raise your kid" advise here in North America, I just find it too much."

    Non, il n'y pas de probleme, eh! Je te comprend parfaitement...il y a trop de conneries en Amerique du Nord quand il se agit des enfants...c'est trop, non?

    "Love your kids I'd say. You will make mistakes as a parents but they won't hate you for that... as long as you love them!"

    Amen to that!

    Zhu, thank you so much for your fantastic and refreshing input. I was missing a bit of Latin support here :D!

    Cheers

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  54. Hey Swu :D!

    "This is so funny and you are right on."

    Thank you! LOL I am glad you found it funny *bowing*!

    "In our household, I wasn't allowed an opinion on anything other than those few things that directly affected me, namely school and play. Even then my opinions were kept to I like it, or I don't like it. Not a lot of depth there."

    That reminds me of Latin-European style!

    "My sister, on the other hand, was given a wide birth in the expression of her opinions. She could comment on food, television programs, vacations spots, and most of everything else."

    LOL oh man...really? She was lucky!

    "So, what does all this mean? To me, I think girls get their way, and boys ride in the caboose. Then when boys grow up, we face a life long effort of trying to get our way as payback for our early childhood suppression. That's why men are so pig headed.LOL!"

    LOL LOL LOL LOL that is an excellent explanation! Should we blame the mothers for that? I sometimes do...

    Swu, your input was excellent! And for it I thank you ever so much :D! You even made me laugh...

    Cheers

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  55. J'ai bien noté que tu connaissais le mot "conneries" :D

    Bad gal! :D

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  56. Zhu,

    LOL LOL LOL eh bien, je pourrais bien avoir utilisé une autre mot plus agréable, mais ce mot lá ne exprimerait pas ce que je voulais transmettre, tu comprends? LOL...

    Mais j'avoue que parfois: I am a bad girl LOL! :D

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